Improve MOG Radio
[was: i want to hear deep cuts]
i want to hear deep cuts i wouldn't normally search out. artists or similar artists vs 0 play count?
I want to be able to listen to a random selection of all of the songs for multiple artists without having to add all of their songs to a playlist.
radio doesn't mix well, especially with a single artist's catalog. continually plays the same song. the edited, parental advisory. or single version. needs to mix better. this even happens when mixing similar artists.
Radio based around specific songs rather than specific artists
[was: Radio based on songs]
Add ability to seed radio with a song or set of songs rather than just artists.
Be able to play radio with two specific artists only. For example, Lady Gaga and Michael Buble are two artists that would never appear under similar artists, but I might want to listen to both artists radio stations. It would be nice to have "Lady Gaga & Michael Buble Radio".
If I play a radio station for a specific artists and set the slider to "Similar Artists" I would like to be able to omit artists so they do not appear in my queue.
I would like some way to say never play a song that comes up on the radio again.
i did billy idol radio and it just played the same like 7 songs over and over and over. it tried to play white wedding about 6 times within 10 minutes. even played it right after it had just played it. come on.
I'm not ready for Christmas/Holiday songs yet. It's kind of annoying when they pop up in radio mode for an artist.
Sometimes, when I have the radio set to play music from a particular artist, MOG selects the remixes in addition to the original songs. While I don't necessarily have a problem with remixes, I'm usually more interested in hearing the actual music. Maybe you can add a feature to turn off the remixes from the radio's rotation?
Add ability to seed the radio with multiple artists.
It would be nice to ban a song when listening to an artist radio station or radio station and similar artists.
I want to be able to enter one or more artists and have MOG automatically create a playlist of similar songs.
I know this is kind of similar to the current MOG radio, except that MOG radio is not very good. This could be a way to improve it.
I'd like to see the radio feature made a little smarter to avoid repeating tracks. I'm surprised how often tracks are repeated on artist only radio even for artists with huge catalogs. This may be due to tracks appearing on several albums, but more intelligence around this would be great.
Currently, you can only play a radio station of like artists. You should be able to mix different genres into one radio station.
Right now the radio only has the option 'similar artists' versus 'similar songs'. Most artists have a very diversified portfolio, and people usually listen to music based on a mood.
It would be great to fine-tune the radio feature further. Adding a few more selectors that would enable the user to select newer/older matches, and/or very similar to artist or to allow discovery matches not as similar to the artist.
It's still a bit wonky. No "related artists" radio station will be perfect, but there's a lot of room for improvement.
have a button for play radio in every favorites section and make a wide artist search on every artist, album and track to come up with the playlist.
this is a new call to the api with some hardcore shit going on... but go!
[was: Allow user to favorite an artist and create artist lists]
I want to be able to favorite artists and create artist lists. Then "radio" play off of my favorite artist list or any artist list I've created.
If multiple artist and/or song seeds could be used for radio streams, this would be the pandora/slacker/all other services killer. I have Pandora stations that are near perfect, if I could have the same ability on Mog plus the song/artist on-demand and playlist feature, there would be no need for any other service or purchasing music, ever.
Add specific artists to custom radio stations
when I play the radio with a 50/50 mix of artist and similar artists, it takes too long for the songs by the similar artists to load
Ability to create radio stations that play tracks from specifically chosen artists.
The advanced level version of this would include slider bars allowing the user to select which artists are played more or less frequently.
Create the ability to apply multiple specific artist to a radio station. Functions as a artist level playlist which plays songs at random from the selected artists.
I would like to be able to turn a play queue or playlist into a radio station.
This way I could add some artists/songs I like to a playlist or play queue and it would find more like those in the list. Like how you do artist radio, but with multiple artists and songs.
I suggest you allow the Similar Artist function to work on ALL artists in queue. Not just similar of the current Artist playing.
Here are my suggestions.
If I chose a track in the radio queue as opposed to skipping through the tracks, MOG radio starts using the artist of the selected track as the source for the MOG radio. I'd like to be able to keep the same influence unless I specifically change it.
Also, If I enter AC/DC and choose the artist radio, I get AC/DC interview tracks. I understand you don't have any AC/DC music but then perhaps just play similar artists not these interview tracks.
The only thing worse than this is if I enter an artist for which you have no tracks, Tool comes to mind, perhaps you could just offer the option to play MOG Radio: Tool, that just plays similar artists.
Thanks for reading.
[was: Remove interviews from artist and like artist playlists, make them a seperate selection]
I enjoy listening to the music you provide but having it interrupted by an interview is not enjoyable, If I want to hear an interview I can always select it.
I would like to be able to create stations using multiple artists. Only of those that I select and allow me to add artists to this list.
As we are streaming a radio station, we should be able to add other artists, whose radio stream would be merged into the current list, instead of wiping out the previous playlist. For example, I could begin with James Brown radio and, to mix things up, add someone different like Henry Threadgill, Then, the two lists would be merged, and I would get a radio station with a bit more variety (but not just artists that MOG has associated with James Brown).
[was: specify artist in radio]
If there are more than one artist using the same name, create a way to choose a radio station for one specifically rather than forcing user to listen to songs from every artist with that name.
i have noticed that for the radio you can put in an song and it will pull up other artists in the same genre, but that really aren't that simular or it will think that the song is actually a different genre. for me it makes the radio useless if i am listening to a councious rapper and gangster rap comes on. or if i am listening to some hypie aka bay area hip hop and some mainstream eastcoast hip hop comes on. i like the idea of radio, but pandora has it dialed to where they know where that song fits in and you can find a ton of other good stuff. otherwise mog is hard to get around.
[was: Improve the Radio to Progressively Expand So I Dont Hear Repeats]
The radio feature is nice but after 4 hours or less songs start to repeat. The UI of the player to me suggests I can listen to the radio and Thumbs up or down the content therefore creating a bias to each song why cant the radio figure out how to explore similar songs. The algorithm seems like something someone could really geek out on and have fun with. Especially with the data you are already collecting.
It would be nice if you could add an additional slider to include multiple artists in the radio - for example, if I like a playlist with multiple artists, I could specify radio play including just those artists, or tracks similar to them; right now I can only base the radio on the last artist in the playlist.
Have radio seed from either a list of songs or a list of artists. That way I can have radio with a wider range that is not limited to one artist or genre.
I would like to be able to select artist from the MOG site or my favorites, and then have MOG's Radio features automatically create a mix based on that selection of artists.
This functions a lot like iTunes' Genius DD feature.
For the MOD Radio feature, an artists/songs/albums seed feature would be great (similar to Pandora). My experiences so far with the Radio feature are lacking in music matchine. I'm getting artists that don't even fall into the same genre (i.e. Drake/Hip-Hop). This would be great, especially considering I really don't have much time to create playlists...Pandora has a massive leap ahead of MOG in this area.
I'm listening to The Who radio with the slider position to the maximum for "similar artists", and the playlist has not been very diverse - Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, Beach Boys, David Bowie. It would be great to see more variety and a representation of more obscure artists.
This is similar to genre-based radio. I'd like to assemble radio or playlists based on artists, rather than individual songs.
I still want the option of having Mog suggest additional artists/songs based on my collection of artists.
(Playlists of indivdual sogs is waaaay too much work for me. :)
Maybe mog can learn more relationships between artists this way.
Can you "dumb down" the radio,
or provide us with a slide switch that goes from obscure to hits.
The songs that always come up now on the radio
are usually the most obscure songs from the artist and it makes the radio feature right now for me pretty useless. Thanks
Would love the option to listen to a radio station, much like pandora, that is created automatically based off of artists you've given the thumbs up to. Sometimes its nice to listen to alternating genres.
Right now, if I search for an artist and play his song, Radio finds "similar artists" or the "same artist" based on what I assume is the first artist listed on the song. That is not always the artist I was searching for. This is especially true with classical music. Let me directly control the artist for whom Radio searches.
John Fern commented
MOG is the best I've seen and heard so far when it comes to streaming music at home. I began it as a free trial basis, and knew right away I would subscribe to it for my home music entertainment. I wish you could add the Eagles music, but other than that, I have found so many of my favorite obscure artists that Pandora never acquired. Keep up the great work and I hope for much future suggest for MOG radio.
Would love it if the radio feature could be used more as a music discovery feature.
My frustration with MOG Radio is it does't seem to mix it up enough...I put in an artist (in this case, Foo Fighters), and it queues up 5 songs from their most recent album...it should shuffle all their songs, not just a handful of albums (or just one)!
Something seems strange with MOG Radio. Even when in "Artist Only" mode, songs and artists that are entirely contra the selected artist/genre are inserted. Which individuals are doing the programming? Example: We selected the artist Gandalf (soft New Age) with Artist Only Radio mode. Shortly, MOG serves up a song titled "Go Fuck Yourself" by the Crasherz. Management better get control of the punks in the company before they give MOG a bad reputation. Sincerely, Primo Subscribers.
I wish there was a way to get rid of some the recomendations tha the Just for you feature contain.
Peter 'PG' Graham commented
yeah, i wouldn't really care if you could add multiple artists to one station...but at least have some variety in the shuffle and artists that ACTUALLY are similar...you have similar artists listed and they aren't even played on the radio...i use last.fm, i think that has a great radio service...try to come up with something like that and keep the only artist vs similar option available...it would be perfect!
I would like to be able to shuffle all songs of a single artist that are already downloaded on my ipod. I think by selecting mog radio on a particular artist while offline should play and shuffle all songs on my device.
Nothing beats MOG for sound quality and music library, but the radio feature which I use the most needs a lot of work.
If I start a station based off of Zero 7 it seems Sneaker Pimps (which I completely hate) comes up almost every 4th song! Come on! If I try to remove them from my playlist with the X next to the <3 it does nothing and sometimes will actually start playing that song interrrupting the one I was listening to.
I also use the Android client a lot and mostly in the car. The interface is horrible while driving. It should have everything on one screen and simplier without losing functionallity. Panadora seems to have this down pretty well.
Hopefully MOG can get its act together. If so it'll be the best choice out there, if not I'll probably settle for lower quality music from one of the other sites.
I would agree. Even a simple thumbs up/ down would be great so that songs i *hate* stop popping up on MOG radio. I think pandora does a much better job of this. Alternatively, can MOG just suck down my preferences from last.fm? getting MOG radio to perform close to pandora radio (in terms of selecting tracks which i will like) would be a HUGE difference for me. I don't always have patience or time to create a playlist.
It's got serious flaws rendering it useless. As a laugh pick some kids song, say Dora the Explorer's "Wheels on the Bus" and pick similar artists....it can get non kid friendly pretty quick. I've just got Gorgasm "Blodlust", Devourment "Babykiller", and Pig Destroyer "Gravedancer" as 3 of the first 4 results. Imagine that birthday party!
Not that I don't like rap music, but when you start a station based on Alan Morrison playing church music on the organ, you don't expect a rap artist to come next! ha. That makes me say, I AGREE! THE RADIO HAS SOME SERIOUS FLAWS.
Agreed! I would LOVE a "popularity slider" in addition to the "selected artist" slider.
It would also be nice to ban tracks/artists from stations - a simple black list. I know the work involved in building likes/dislikes to better tune things is immense, but a simple blacklist would make radio 1000% more great. One of my favorite radio stations has *one* band that was clearly a mistake (all screaming) and I never want to hear that band again (let alone every 20th track or so).
Agree with everyone here: Pandora radio absolutely blows mog away. Not. Even. Close.
Multiple artists for one radio station, thumbs up/down, and most importantly, just a better mix of music. My last attempt was based on Frontier Ruckus, literally 5 of the next 10 songs were all Blitzen Trapper including 3 in a row. Now I like that band, but that's just weak sauce.
For now, if I want radio, I'm sticking to Pandora. It's too bad because if MOG had this function nailed down, I doubt I'd ever need another music service.
Adam Micco commented
I think a thumbs up, thumbs down system like Pandora has would be great.
Too much mismatched music. Too many repeats. When I listen to the Radio Dept station tomorrow it shouldn't be the exact same 20 songs I listened to, today.
Michael Given commented
Good comments, and I'd like the ability to have the radio play multiple artists, but also wonder why it's not tied into favorites as well. I see the use of favorite artists, albums and songs so that there is one place on the website where I can access this list of my favorites. BUT..what if I want to play my favorites? There are often times I don't want to play them one at a time, but want to make a "my favorites" radio station. I'd love the option to dump into the radio stream the command to JUST play my favorite songs or JUST songs from my favorite albums or JUST songs from my favorite artists. I've already went through the process of identifying them and saving that on the service, so why should I have to create a playlist to play something the database already knows is my favorites? To take it a step further, then add the ability (by slider) to mix in other artists similar to my favorites. Now you'd be talking powerful!
Eric from Denver commented
Leveraging community ratings, I agree that Pandora's "radio" functionality blows the MOG artist radio away. Can MOG do something more with community ratings to skew the percentage chance of selecting well-rated tracks? I love MOG, but find the radio functionality next to useless.
I agree, I love Pandora's ability to seed my different stations with either additional Artists or Songs of my choosing. The only reason I am trying out MOG is because of the ability to play or repeat any song I want, but am rethinking because I miss Pandora's better control over my radio stations and better recommendations based off of my seeds.
Corey O. commented
Pandora has a lot of time and money invested in their "Music Genome" project. It is flawed in oh-so many ways, but remains, by far, the best classification of music and the best algorithm for matching. It actually takes into account things such as tonality, sonority, rhythm, instrument composition, vocal and instrumental quality, complexity, and about 200 other traits. It also requires trained musicologists to be on staff to assign these things. I still use Pandora to find music.
I'd be interested to know how MOG matches music for their radio. Is it done by genre, popularity, people who like this also like this, etc.? Currently, I only use it when I want a shuffled sample from a new artist.